Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

I Can't Wrap My Head Around This...


Pandoranitemare

Recommended Posts

Pandoranitemare Apprentice

Essentially my issue is this...

I did the gluten challenge, and had my blood test, now I am having to wait till after the bank holiday weekend to make an appointment the doctor has asked me to make to discuss the results. I am expecting the worst, as I was told I would not be called in if they were normal....So I sort of feel like I am on a 'gluten count down'. I don't want to stop just yet in case they want to do any further tests (which would require me to still be eating the stuff), but I feel my gluten eating days may well be numbered....

Whilst I was doing the gluten challenge I hated it, and only ate what I had to. I generally am quite a healthy eater, yet yesterday I was compelled to get a Chinese takeaway, I knew it would make me feel horrid, and its something I would only eat once in a while, but I felt like I had to get one in maybe before it was off limits forever!

The same compulsion made me buy a bag of those soft, fresh cookies from the in store bakery at the supermarket at the weekend.

I suddenly feel like I need to have 'just one more' of the things I do like, that maybe I only eat occasionally... because there is some deadline looming which means I will never have those things again.

What I can't get my head around is the fact of one potentially one day very soon a lot of foods I have been eating are likely to suddenly be off limits. It's the same food, and all that will have changed is knowing what the cause is, as opposed to guessing and actually having a name for the reason. It is somehow driving me to make myself feel terrible in trying to have the things I enjoy one more time all in a short space of time....and of course I am aware that I am also likely to be causing more damage with a gluten overload, as it is way more gluten than I would normally even have, as my diet is normally not even that high in gluten!

I am being an idiot...and I know it, but I am finding it hard to be rational....


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Mateto Enthusiast

I know very well how you feel! Like you, I am awaiting diagnosis. Like you, I have been eating foods PACKED with gluten, because the thought of them being "off-limits" is frightening.

For me it's the chocolate. Well, it was. I binged last week on chocolate, because I know I might not be able to have it any more. That was last week. THIS week it's going to be baked goods, I can guarantee you that. I'm already started on a chocolate cake we had for dessert Easter Sunday, and my Mom let me keep for leftovers :P It's quite big, quite delicious, very moist, and quite very well sickening <_<

Actually, craving baked goods and sweets is a small symptom that you might have coeliacs, but if you find out you DO (and I for that matter) have coeliacs, just think of those foods as poison. Because for us, they are! We can literally die. Now no, not right away, but it's not worth the pain we can go through.

Don't think yourself an idiot, that doesn't help. I started to think like that last week, but got over it when I joined this forum, and read how to deal with this.

pricklypear1971 Community Regular

I can only say I've been there and I understand.

If its any consolation (in a sick, twisted way) if you do have an issue with gluten, and it does invoke symptoms like D or C or nausea - you will probably NOT have a hard time staying away - once you make the correlation. Because when it becomes clear, it typically becomes VERY clear. And you will avoid it like the plague.

As an example: Junior Mints were my safe go-to treat starting gluten-free. I ate a ton of Junior Mints. Now, after getting semi-sick on them once, very sick a second time, and pretty sick on another mint product - I am steering very clear of mint flavored food. My reaction isn't from gluten, I don't know WHAT its from, really, but the association has been made abundantly clear to me. And while I hated the thought of losing reliable gluten-free junk food (hah!), the consequences became too unpleasant to ignore.

You'll get there. I promise. I look in a bakery window and resist the urge to run away. Not because I want to eat the stuff, but because I just don't want to be near it.

It's a process, a grieving process, I think.

Marilyn R Community Regular

I don't know if UK doctors make you go for an endoscopy to confirm the blood test or not. If so, you theoretically have a reason to justify continuing to enjoy your favorites until you have the procedure.

Your post made me wonder what I'd want if I knew it would be my last meal. I thought Lobster or Stone Crab with Drawn Butter, Filet Mignon, twice baked potatoes, or stuffed peppers or mushrooms, a nice light salad with good cheese, and some kind of really good chocolate for desert. Like dark chocolate ice cream or a flourless chocolate cake or the chocolate cream pie I make in a meringue shell. I'd have fresh red ripe berries along with the chocolate.

That made me laugh because my "last meal" would be lucious, but gluten-free. For me, the cravings took under two weeks to resolve. But it took longer to get over food envy. :(:(

beebs Enthusiast

I didn't really get the chance to do the whole 'just one more' thing, I wish I did, I was really looking forward to a gluten challenge so I could eat all of my very favourite gluten laden foods for 3 months. But it does get easier, eventually you'll find cookies that are just as nice, and the chocolate thing? Most chocolate is gluten free, even the nice ones, just not the ones with cookies and stuff in them. I've found cheese corn chips which are gorgeous and salt and vinegar chips and all kinds of things. Sometimes its like - I just don't even notice anymore. Its a PITA when you are sick or tired and just want to do takeaway - but usually Indian and Thai are gluten-free - so that is ok.

love2travel Mentor

Believe me, I get it. I made myself a list of 70 some things to have for the last time and did not stop eating gluten until the list was done. It was tough because I was not feeling ill from gluten at all! And a year later, strictly gluten free, I feel no different. The odd time I wonder what it would be like to try some gluten but I would never, ever do it. I'm scared of the damage it would do to me internally even if I did not feel ill. In the beginning it was difficult to stay motivated, though I did. I quit cold turkey right after my last bite of croissant. (I was diagnosed by bloodwork and biopsy as I was in denial and just could not believe I had it. Testing was done as one sister was gluten intolerant so I thought I may as well get tested, feeling there would be no chance of me having it. Wrong!)

Now I realize that I can make most of the 70 some things wonderfully anyway. Well, except croissants and doughnuts and I have not yet made gluten-free phyllo. And really delicious chewy bread.

If you do have celiac, just know it truly does get easier. Trust me on this. Trust all of us on this! :) We're here to help you along.

Mateto Enthusiast

I didn't really get the chance to do the whole 'just one more' thing, I wish I did, I was really looking forward to a gluten challenge so I could eat all of my very favourite gluten laden foods for 3 months. But it does get easier, eventually you'll find cookies that are just as nice, and the chocolate thing? Most chocolate is gluten free, even the nice ones, just not the ones with cookies and stuff in them. I've found cheese corn chips which are gorgeous and salt and vinegar chips and all kinds of things. Sometimes its like - I just don't even notice anymore. Its a PITA when you are sick or tired and just want to do takeaway - but usually Indian and Thai are gluten-free - so that is ok.

Most chocolate IS gluten-free, however, in my own stupidity, I've cross contaminated my supply PLUS what I was given for Easter. Also, I don't want to buy more because it would be a waste of what I have...do Cadbury come from a gluten-free factory? I must ask them!

Anyhow, you are SO lucky you NEVER had the chance to do the "Just one more" thing. It's annoying, and actually becomes addictive. You gain a lot of water weight, not fat-weight, but water weight from the glycogen storage or whatever it is.

Cheese corn chips sound DELICIOUS, what brand are they, or are they homemade?


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Pandoranitemare Apprentice

Thank you all so much, your replies have made me feel so much better :)

I made the appointment to get my blood test results ..but as my GP is on holiday I can't get the results until the 24th of April! I will be trying for a cancellation appointment the week before, so fingers crossed though.

In the meantime, what you have all said has made a lot of sense, and helped to put things into perspective for me. Whilst I will continue to eat gluten (just in case of any further tests...I don't want to jump the gun and go gluten free and have to do another gluten challenge) I have been feeling the effects of my over indulgence, and I know I need to scale thing back a bit.

I still have a few gluten treats I would like to have before 'D Day" but maybe it is good that I have some time to think about the whole process and most likely accept that it is the gluten which is making me sick and that I need to take this time to say goodbye to it...

It means a lot to know that others have been through similar, and come out the other side, healthier, stronger and better for being gluten free :)

Thank you!

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      131,860
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Rena Celiac
    Newest Member
    Rena Celiac
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.4k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Rogol72
      Some interesting articles regarding the use of Zinc Carnosine to help heal gastric ulcers, gastritis and intestinal permeability. I would consult a medical professional about it's use. https://www.nature.com/articles/ncpgasthep0778 https://www.rupahealth.com/post/clinical-applications-of-zinc-carnosine---evidence-review https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7146259/ https://www.fallbrookmedicalcenter.com/zinc-l-carnosine-benefits-dosage-and-safety/
    • Jillian83
      He is. Which makes everything even more difficult. I’m not a believer in “staying for the kids” but I have nowhere to go and it’s not just me, it’s me plus my babies. We live in a beautiful place, lots of land in the country and me and the kids love the place we’ve called home for their entire lives. But Im seeing that he’ll never change, that my kids deserve a happy healthy Momma, and that staying in this as is will be the early death of me. Then I look at the scars covering my entire body…this disease and the chronic stress I’ve been enduring for years that tell me I’m no longer beautiful and no one will ever look at me with interest again. I try self care, try to give myself grace so I can just start loving myself enough to gain strength but the slightest sparkle in my eye and skip in my step attracts his wrath and it all comes crashing ten fold. Life is just absolutely railing me from every single direction leaving me wanting to wave that white flag bc I don’t feel like there’s much hope no matter what happens. 
    • trents
    • Jillian83
      Hi, I was recently diagnosed with Celiac and dermatitis herpetiformis after years of suffering without answers. I lost my mind. I lost my job. I lost so much time. I lost Me. Conventional doctors are opulent come near me and the one who did sat across the room, misdiagnosed me, pumped me full of steroids which collapsed my entire hip for 6 months. So without answers I began my holistic journey. Fast forward a couple of years and still struggling with a mysterious whole body itchy, crawling “skin hell”, perfect teeth now deteriorating, thick hair now thinning rapidly and no more than a day or 2 at most relief….An acquaintance opened up a functional medicine practice. Cash only, I found a way. Within a month tests clearly showing my off the charts gluten allergy/sensitivity as well as the depletion of vital nutrients due to leaky gut and intestinal damage. dermatitis herpetiformis was more than likely what I was experiencing with my skin. I was happy. I thought this is easy, eat healthy Whole Foods, follow the diet restrictions and I finally get to heal and feel confident and like myself again very soon! 😔 Supplements are very pricey but I got them and began my healing. Which leads to the other major issue: not working, stay at home Mom of young kids, entirely financially dependent on my man of 7 plus years. He’s never been supportive of anything I’ve ever done or been thru. He controls everything. I’m not given much money ever at a time and when he does leave money it’s only enough to possibly get gas. His excuse is that I’ll spend it on other things. So my “allowance” is inconsistent and has conditions. He withholds money from me as punishment for anything he wants. Since being diagnosed, he’s gained a new control tactic to use as punishment. He now is in control of when I get to eat. He asked for proof of my diagnosis and diet bc he said I made it up just to be able to eat expensive organic foods. Then after I sent him my file from my doctor he then said she wasn’t a real doctor. 😡. I go days upon days starving, sometimes breaking down and eating things I shouldn’t bc I’m so sick then I pay horribly while he gets annoyed and angry bc I’m not keeping up with all the duties I’m supposed to be doing. His abuse turns full on when I’m down and it’s in these desperate times when I need his support and care the most that I’m punished with silence, being starved, ignored, belittled. He will create more of a mess just bc I’m unable to get up and clean so that when I am better, I’m so overwhelmed with chores to catch up that the stress causes me to go right back into a flare from hell and the cycle repeats. I’m punished for being sick. I’m belittled for starving and asking for healthy clean water. I’m purposely left out of his life. He won’t even tell me he’s going to the grocery or to get dinner bc he doesn’t want me to ask him for anything. I have no one. I have nothing. Im not better. My supplements ran out and I desperately need Vitamin D3 and a methylated B complex at the very minimal just to function….he stares at me blankly…no, a slight smirk, no words. He’s happiest when im miserable and I am miserable.  this is so long and im condensing as much as I can but this situation is so complicated and disgusting. And it’s currently my life. The “IT” girl, the healthy, beautiful, perfect skin, perfect teeth, thick and curly locks for days, creative and talented IT girl….now I won’t even leave this house bc Im ashamed of what this has dont to my body, my skin. Im disgusted. The stress is keeping me from healing and I think he knows that and that’s why he continues to keep me in that state. He doesn’t want me confident or successful. He doesn’t want me healed and healthy bc then how would he put the blame of all his problems on me? This journey has been hell and I’ve been in Hell before. I’ve been killed by an ex, I’ve been raped, robbed, held hostage, abused beyond nightmares but the cruelty I’ve experienced from him bc of this disease is the coldest I’ve ever experienced. I’ve wanted to give up. Starving and in tears, desperate…I found a local food pantry in our small town so I reached out just saying I had Celiac and was on hard times. This woman is blessing me daily with prepared gluten free meals, donations, educational info, people who know this disease and how they manage life and the blessings just keep coming. But it’s overwhelming and I feel like I don’t deserve it at all. He just glared and I know he’s going to sabotage it somehow. I don’t even know what to do anymore. I’m so broken and just want peace and healing. 
    • cristiana
      @Colleen H   I am just curious,  when you were tested for coeliac disease, did the doctors find out if you had any deficiencies? Sometimes muscle pain can be caused by certain deficiencies, for example, magnesium, vitamin D, calcium, and potassium.   Might be worth looking into having some more tests.  Pins and needles can be neuropathy, again caused by deficiencies, such as iron and B12,  which can be reversed if these deficiencies are addressed. In the UK where I live we are usually only tested for iron, B12 and vitamin D deficiencies at diagnosis.   I was very iron anemic and supplementation made a big difference.  B12 was low normal, but in other countries the UK's low normal would be considered a deficiency.  My vitamin D was low normal, and I've been supplementing ever since (when I remember to take it!) My pins and needles definitely started to improve when my known deficiencies were addressed.  My nutritionist also gave me a broad spectrum supplement which really helped, because I suspect I wasn't just deficient in what I mention above but in many other vitamins and minerals.  But a word of warning, don't take iron unless blood tests reveal you actually need it, and if you are taking it your levels must be regularly monitored because too much can make you ill.  (And if you are currently taking iron, that might actually be making your stomach sore - it did mine, so my GP changed my iron supplementation to a gentler form, ferrous gluconate). Lastly, have you been trying to take anything to lessen the pain in your gut?  I get a sore stomach periodically, usually when I've had too much rich food, or when I have had to take an aspirin or certain antibiotics, or after glutening.  When this happens, I take for just a few days a small daily dose of OTC omeprazole.  I also follow a reflux or gastritis diet. There are lots online but the common denominators to these diets is you need to cut out caffeine, alcohol, rich, spicy, acidic food etc and eat small regularly spaced meals.   When I get a sore stomach, I also find it helpful to drink lots of water.  I also find hot water with a few slices of ginger very soothing to sip, or camomile tea.  A wedge pillow at night is good for reflux. Also,  best not to eat a meal 2-3 hours before going to bed. If the stomach pain is getting worse, though, it would be wise to see the doctor again. I hope some of this helps. Cristiana    
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.