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I think that one day they are going to find a missing link for celiac testing. I think there is another antibody or a whole different substance in the body that they haven't discovered yet that will point to celiac.

There are too many of us on this board who were deathly ill and debilitated yet we were either only positive on one or two of the tests in the panel or we were barely over the limit positive. Or negative which is just shameful. If someone is that sick, it's not logical that their antibodies will be that low. Something is missing.

Or there is some sort of inverse relationship that they are missing.

Celiac testing is one of my biggest sources of anger about this disease. I HATE seeing all the hell people go through on here who are clearly sicker than sick and yet their tests come up negative and they don't know what to do. I hate and loathe even more when they have a big reversal of symptoms when they try gluten free but they doubt themselves or feel like the celiac stepchild for not being "real" bonafide celiacs.

I hate the gluten intolerance label with a purple passion. It lowers people's expectations of what the disease can do to you. It makes them feel like it's not as serious even though in their heart they know it is. And I think the majority of intolerant people are celiacs who have been failed by the crap garbage that passes for testing. If you say you are intolerant there is not a waiter or restaurant manager in the world who is going to take you serious and good luck getting most docs to take that seriously too.

The most discouraging thing I have seen in a long time was that article about how bad endoscopies are. Dr. Green or whatever his name is (Is it Green? I forget)insists it's the "gold standard." He's not far from me and he refused to take me as a patient because I refused endo. I got a positive blood test and I wasn't consenting to invasive procedures and eating gluten any longer. I was going to die if I kept eating gluten as far as I could tell.

The stats on endo were abysmal. Most doctors not performing them correctly, reading the results wrong. People's lives are at stake.


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scaredblossom Rookie

I for one hope you are right :l I know how I feel and it isn't good when I eat that crap!!

sandsurfgirl Collaborator

I for one hope you are right :l I know how I feel and it isn't good when I eat that crap!!

I tell everybody if you are undiagnosed or think you are "intolerant" please save your sanity and tell people you have celiac. The last thing you need is to defend your health decision or have people not take you seriously. Tell family and friends you had a blood test.

scaredblossom Rookie

The only problem with that one is my mom works at my family Doctor and knows what my tests said =( of course she is only a file clerk but still

anabananakins Explorer

I tell people that I'm waiting for the testing to catch up. I agree that there's something major missing. Articles I'd read about gluten ataxia indicated that plenty of people who improved on a gluten free diet hadn't tested positive for celiac and I think I likely fall into that category. I don't mind being open about testing negative, people know that gluten makes me super ill. I'll say I have celiac disease to strangers, but if I want to make a point about testing failing to diagnose me, I think it's better that I'm honest about not getting a positive result, because maybe I can encourage someone else to go gluten free. But I live in Australia and awareness is much better here, so if I tell someone I can't eat gluten, I've never had anything but supportive responses (oh the occasional 'sucks to be you, I'd die without bread!' but they are supportive of me not eating it).

Greyhound Rookie

There's no way I'm going to eat gluten just for someone to tell me I'm ill, so I'm not going to get an official diagnosis either. Hope no one will ever require it of me for any reason - like a medical note for something.

I'm beginning to wonder whether I should tell people I have coeliac disease instead, but I'm afraid people will think 'DISEASE? Ewwwww keep away!'

sandsurfgirl Collaborator

There's no way I'm going to eat gluten just for someone to tell me I'm ill, so I'm not going to get an official diagnosis either. Hope no one will ever require it of me for any reason - like a medical note for something.

I'm beginning to wonder whether I should tell people I have coeliac disease instead, but I'm afraid people will think 'DISEASE? Ewwwww keep away!'

I never say disease either. I just say celiac.

If your family is supportive then you of course don't have to lie about testing, but I've seen so many situations here where people told the truth to family and were treated like dirt. And there have been awful instances of family members glutening people on purpose, lying that something was gluten free to prove to them they don't really have a problem with gluten. One poor woman was glutened on purpose by a family member and then after she ate a whole meal that sad excuse for a human being gloated and said "See you just ate gluten and you're fine." The celiac person broke out in a horrible DH rash all over her body and was very sick from that.

So you have to know your audience.


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tennisman Contributor

The biopsy results are 99.9 % accurate that's what I have been told by several nurses . I don't get how any celiac could have negative biopsy tests unless the doctor don't do the test right . Lately I read cross contamination or a coin sized amount of gluten can will cause damage to the villi for 6 months , so if people have eaten gluten there whole life the tests would see the damage .

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The biopsy results are 99.9 % accurate that's what I have been told by several nurses . I don't get how any celiac could have negative biopsy tests unless the doctor don't do the test right . Lately I read cross contamination or a coin sized amount of gluten can will cause damage to the villi for 6 months , so if people have eaten gluten there whole life the tests would see the damage .

Doctors and nurses will tell you all sorts of things but they are sadly WRONG. I wish I had the link to that article. It was something like only 30% accuracy on the biopsy precisely because they don't do it right, and because the test is inherently easy to screw up. Your small intestine is so many feet long and they take 4 tiny teeny weeny samples. Very easy to miss the mark. They also don't go very deep. One woman on here was part of a study where they used a camera after negative biopsy and then they found her villi damage much lower than the biopsy goes.

Then there are those docs who just don't read it right. Any villi blunting or damage means celiac and some of them look for all out war in there before they will give a positive DX.

The anecdotal evidence is a nuclear bomb to the 99% accurate b.s. There are loads of people with positive blood tests and negative biopsies. Then they come here crying and losing their minds because they were told they don't have celiac yet they are so sick or they improved on gluten free.

The celiac biopsy is a medical travesty in America. It's the "gold standard" becuase it makes the doctors so much GOLD! Why do a simple blood test when you can charge my insurance for a surgery? It's despicable that after positive blood tests they insist on biopsy to "confirm." It's a dietary change! They torture patients by keeping them on gluten and putting them through an invasive procedure for what?

Yeah nurses and doctors "say" a lot of things about celiac but stick around here long enough and you'll find that they are sadly so misinformed.

tennisman Contributor

Doctors and nurses will tell you all sorts of things but they are sadly WRONG. I wish I had the link to that article. It was something like only 30% accuracy on the biopsy precisely because they don't do it right, and because the test is inherently easy to screw up. Your small intestine is so many feet long and they take 4 tiny teeny weeny samples. Very easy to miss the mark. They also don't go very deep. One woman on here was part of a study where they used a camera after negative biopsy and then they found her villi damage much lower than the biopsy goes.

Then there are those docs who just don't read it right. Any villi blunting or damage means celiac and some of them look for all out war in there before they will give a positive DX.

The anecdotal evidence is a nuclear bomb to the 99% accurate b.s. There are loads of people with positive blood tests and negative biopsies. Then they come here crying and losing their minds because they were told they don't have celiac yet they are so sick or they improved on gluten free.

The celiac biopsy is a medical travesty in America. It's the "gold standard" becuase it makes the doctors so much GOLD! Why do a simple blood test when you can charge my insurance for a surgery? It's despicable that after positive blood tests they insist on biopsy to "confirm." It's a dietary change! They torture patients by keeping them on gluten and putting them through an invasive procedure for what?

Yeah nurses and doctors "say" a lot of things about celiac but stick around here long enough and you'll find that they are sadly so misinformed.

So it's more the tests being done wrong than not being accurate . celiac disease causes inflammation and villi damage I just don't get how doctors could miss it . I'm from england maybe we have better testing over here my old doctor boasted about how he had performed over 5000 endoscopy's :o I also hear patients told to start a gluten-free diet before the endoscopy , I hear stories for example someone has been gluten-free for 2 weeks before the endoscopy and tests come back negative , how can the villi repair in 2 weeks if a small amount of gluten can do 6 months of damage it all seems confusing .

Bubba's Mom Enthusiast

I tested negative on the blood tests. I'm furtunate though, because I had severe symptoms, along with with weight loss. When I went to the GI she said she was going to do blood tests, a stomach emptying study, and an endoscope, and said if those didn't give us answers there were other tests that could be done.

When my endoscope was done it was easily seen with the naked eye that I had severe damage and was DXed with Celiac.

There are a lot of suffering people out there that are shooed away if given the blood test and it comes back negative. A scope isn't done to double check. They're told they have IBS and sent on their way. :o

If the blood tests have a 20-30% false negative rate, you'd think they'd try real hard to come up with a better test? Even the genetic tests aren't very good. They can tell if you *might* get Celiac, but that's only if you have DQ2 and/or DQ8. They know there are more genes involved, but say it's rare to have them. Maybe it's not so rare? Maybe those without the two main ones are being mis-Dxed too?

I gave extra vials of blood to a research team at Mayo Clinic. They're looking hard at other genes as a way of DXing more people, or finding additional companion diseases to Celiac to watch for. Unfortunately, research seems to move at a snail's pace?

I wondered too, if there's a soy version of Celiac? So many of us can't tolerate soy along with gluten?

Greyhound Rookie

I never say disease either. I just say celiac.

If your family is supportive then you of course don't have to lie about testing, but I've seen so many situations here where people told the truth to family and were treated like dirt. And there have been awful instances of family members glutening people on purpose, lying that something was gluten free to prove to them they don't really have a problem with gluten. One poor woman was glutened on purpose by a family member and then after she ate a whole meal that sad excuse for a human being gloated and said "See you just ate gluten and you're fine." The celiac person broke out in a horrible DH rash all over her body and was very sick from that.

So you have to know your audience.

That's horrendous :o

Thankfully my family's been very supportive over it. I eat at my parents' house every Friday and my mum says she doesn't mind if I want to double check any of the ingredients. I was really relieved because I was so nervous about telling her. I thought she'd think I was making it up. I think she's relieved for me though - she partly knew how ill I'd become (although I don't think she realises quite how bad I'd got).

I was also very touched by the service I received at a pub recently - I go to a folk evening there every Thursday evening and at a certain time the landlord puts a large platter of free food like sandwiches and chips for everyone taking part. I've been going there for a couple of years now and last Thursday I plucked up the courage to ask whether I could have just a small lump of cheese because I was hungry and couldn't eat anything. He assured me that the chips were gluten free, but I was nervous and they'd been put next to the sandwiches. He said not to worry and brought me a big bowl of salad with two types of cheese!

I could have cried - I was so touched :-)

Googles Community Regular

The only problem with that one is my mom works at my family Doctor and knows what my tests said =( of course she is only a file clerk but still

Hi Sacredblossom,

Are you over 18? If so, no matter what position your mother has at your doctor's office, she should not have access to your files. If something needs to be done with your files, someone else should be doing it unless you have signed a release for your mother to have access to your file. Your mother should not have access to your file, especially if it is causing problems for you. Talk to your doctor about this.

chasbari Apprentice

I think that one day they are going to find a missing link for celiac testing. I think there is another antibody or a whole different substance in the body that they haven't discovered yet that will point to celiac.

There are too many of us on this board who were deathly ill and debilitated yet we were either only positive on one or two of the tests in the panel or we were barely over the limit positive. Or negative which is just shameful. If someone is that sick, it's not logical that their antibodies will be that low. Something is missing.

Or there is some sort of inverse relationship that they are missing.

Celiac testing is one of my biggest sources of anger about this disease. I HATE seeing all the hell people go through on here who are clearly sicker than sick and yet their tests come up negative and they don't know what to do. I hate and loathe even more when they have a big reversal of symptoms when they try gluten free but they doubt themselves or feel like the celiac stepchild for not being "real" bonafide celiacs.

I hate the gluten intolerance label with a purple passion. It lowers people's expectations of what the disease can do to you. It makes them feel like it's not as serious even though in their heart they know it is. And I think the majority of intolerant people are celiacs who have been failed by the crap garbage that passes for testing. If you say you are intolerant there is not a waiter or restaurant manager in the world who is going to take you serious and good luck getting most docs to take that seriously too.

The most discouraging thing I have seen in a long time was that article about how bad endoscopies are. Dr. Green or whatever his name is (Is it Green? I forget)insists it's the "gold standard." He's not far from me and he refused to take me as a patient because I refused endo. I got a positive blood test and I wasn't consenting to invasive procedures and eating gluten any longer. I was going to die if I kept eating gluten as far as I could tell.

The stats on endo were abysmal. Most doctors not performing them correctly, reading the results wrong. People's lives are at stake.

Long time since I have been hanging around here. I miss everyone and all the passion and support that got me through the darkest times in all of this. I agree with so much of what you are saying. I hate to hear the old standby suggestion to "make sure you keep eating gluten (uh.. poison) until after all the testing is done" garbage. I tested negative but the evidence was so overwhelming that the doctor did the scope anyway. Thing is, I was fortunate to have a good gastro who did it right.. or maybe was lucky. The damage can be very spotty and the samples they take from random locations might miss it altogether thus giving the appearance of no atrophy. It didn't matter in the long run whether I got the ok from the doctors or not. There was no way anyone was going to get me to "challenge" by eating anymore poison. I was dying and when the light bulb went on, there was no turning back. I knew and that was all that really mattered. It's nobody elses' business as to what my official DX was (even though I did get a positive DX for celiac.) oOf course, that's a lot easier for me to say now than it was back then. It was brutal at first. All I know is that when I went rigorously gluten free that I went from dying to recovery and from recovery to living and from living to thriving. Granted, I still have a ways to go but just this past fall I was talking to some rheumatoid arthritis researchers about how, after my celiac diagnosis and switch to a very low carb gluten free diet and strategies to restore my gut flora, that my supposedly irreversible joint damage sort of kind of began to reverse. My hands, which used to be claws are almost completely back to normal. My elbows, which I could no longer fully straighten to within about 15 degrees of straight, are now capable of full range of motion. I have no gel time when it used to take two plus hours to get past shuffling. Thing is, according to the initial blood work, I shouldn't have received the scope. Even with all that Fasano is doing and that others have contributed to the field, I don't think we're anywhere close to putting it all together in a way that is truly helpful. I think that the commercialization of the celiac diet has messed things up so severely that many are no better off than pre diagnosis because of it. I live and eat on the lunatic fringe now but do so happily because I have my life back. The perfect storm, the confluence of so many food and environmental and medical (pharmaceutical) changes that have happened over the last fifty years are wreaking havoc with our genetic expression and we are the proverbial canaries in the cage.. but the cage is getting mighty crowded. Anyway... rant over. I have way too much catching up to do here and I hope I see some old friends.

CS

pricklypear1971 Community Regular

Long time since I have been hanging around here. I miss everyone and all the passion and support that got me through the darkest times in all of this. I agree with so much of what you are saying. I hate to hear the old standby suggestion to "make sure you keep eating gluten (uh.. poison) until after all the testing is done" garbage. I tested negative but the evidence was so overwhelming that the doctor did the scope anyway. Thing is, I was fortunate to have a good gastro who did it right.. or maybe was lucky. The damage can be very spotty and the samples they take from random locations might miss it altogether thus giving the appearance of no atrophy. It didn't matter in the long run whether I got the ok from the doctors or not. There was no way anyone was going to get me to "challenge" by eating anymore poison. I was dying and when the light bulb went on, there was no turning back. I knew and that was all that really mattered. It's nobody elses' business as to what my official DX was (even though I did get a positive DX for celiac.) oOf course, that's a lot easier for me to say now than it was back then. It was brutal at first. All I know is that when I went rigorously gluten free that I went from dying to recovery and from recovery to living and from living to thriving. Granted, I still have a ways to go but just this past fall I was talking to some rheumatoid arthritis researchers about how, after my celiac diagnosis and switch to a very low carb gluten free diet and strategies to restore my gut flora, that my supposedly irreversible joint damage sort of kind of began to reverse. My hands, which used to be claws are almost completely back to normal. My elbows, which I could no longer fully straighten to within about 15 degrees of straight, are now capable of full range of motion. I have no gel time when it used to take two plus hours to get past shuffling. Thing is, according to the initial blood work, I shouldn't have received the scope. Even with all that Fasano is doing and that others have contributed to the field, I don't think we're anywhere close to putting it all together in a way that is truly helpful. I think that the commercialization of the celiac diet has messed things up so severely that many are no better off than pre diagnosis because of it. I live and eat on the lunatic fringe now but do so happily because I have my life back. The perfect storm, the confluence of so many food and environmental and medical (pharmaceutical) changes that have happened over the last fifty years are wreaking havoc with our genetic expression and we are the proverbial canaries in the cage.. but the cage is getting mighty crowded. Anyway... rant over. I have way too much catching up to do here and I hope I see some old friends.

CS

Thanks for sharing our success story. It gives lots of us hope.

scaredblossom Rookie

Hi Sacredblossom,

Are you over 18? If so, no matter what position your mother has at your doctor's office, she should not have access to your files. If something needs to be done with your files, someone else should be doing it unless you have signed a release for your mother to have access to your file. Your mother should not have access to your file, especially if it is causing problems for you. Talk to your doctor about this.

Lol yeah way over 18 B) I'm 34 but my mother has always been, ummm nosey shall we say :blink: It's a very small town where I grew up and I actually did ask her to get my test results for me! Probably not the smartest thing I could've done! She knows what's going on though because they all talk in the office, as with most medical facilities!! :ph34r: We shouldn't but we do talk about our patients amongest each other my mom just happens to work at the Dr I go to... :unsure:

notme Experienced

my blood test was negative - if i hadn't already seen such a marked improvement in my symptoms as i had already started eating gluten free, i would have probably believed that i didn't have celiac and continued to eat gluten and die. after 25 years of suffering/misdiagnosed/medicated, etc., the gluten free diet is the ONLY THING that worked IMMEDIATELY. my nephew and grandson, who have had digestive issues since they were babies, both had negative blood tests - since that is the first test "they" do, since it was negative, the celiac dx was instantly a dead issue as far as their respective doctors were concerned, so they are still sick and clueless. because their doctor said so and that is gospel to most people. i can't blame them... when i had my endoscopy, my doc could SEE the damage done, therefore i got my dx. the biopsies she took came back from the lab: negative. i feel bad for the (and my relatives!) people who aren't convinced or committed enough because of what their doctor tells them. most of them, initially general practice docs (you have to be referred to a GI doc by your general practice doc at least you do for our insurance to cover it!) have no clue even what the symptoms of celiac are. so, most people get shut down/game over before they even have enough evidence to make an educated decision. this diet SAVED my LIFE. yet, sadly, most people will only get a sketchy diagnosis at best. :(

ravenwoodglass Mentor

Long time since I have been hanging around here. I miss everyone and all the passion and support that got me through the darkest times in all of this. I agree with so much of what you are saying. I hate to hear the old standby suggestion to "make sure you keep eating gluten (uh.. poison) until after all the testing is done" garbage. I tested negative but the evidence was so overwhelming that the doctor did the scope anyway. Thing is, I was fortunate to have a good gastro who did it right.. or maybe was lucky. The damage can be very spotty and the samples they take from random locations might miss it altogether thus giving the appearance of no atrophy. It didn't matter in the long run whether I got the ok from the doctors or not. There was no way anyone was going to get me to "challenge" by eating anymore poison. I was dying and when the light bulb went on, there was no turning back. I knew and that was all that really mattered. It's nobody elses' business as to what my official DX was (even though I did get a positive DX for celiac.) oOf course, that's a lot easier for me to say now than it was back then. It was brutal at first. All I know is that when I went rigorously gluten free that I went from dying to recovery and from recovery to living and from living to thriving. Granted, I still have a ways to go but just this past fall I was talking to some rheumatoid arthritis researchers about how, after my celiac diagnosis and switch to a very low carb gluten free diet and strategies to restore my gut flora, that my supposedly irreversible joint damage sort of kind of began to reverse. My hands, which used to be claws are almost completely back to normal. My elbows, which I could no longer fully straighten to within about 15 degrees of straight, are now capable of full range of motion. I have no gel time when it used to take two plus hours to get past shuffling. Thing is, according to the initial blood work, I shouldn't have received the scope. Even with all that Fasano is doing and that others have contributed to the field, I don't think we're anywhere close to putting it all together in a way that is truly helpful. I think that the commercialization of the celiac diet has messed things up so severely that many are no better off than pre diagnosis because of it. I live and eat on the lunatic fringe now but do so happily because I have my life back. The perfect storm, the confluence of so many food and environmental and medical (pharmaceutical) changes that have happened over the last fifty years are wreaking havoc with our genetic expression and we are the proverbial canaries in the cage.. but the cage is getting mighty crowded. Anyway... rant over. I have way too much catching up to do here and I hope I see some old friends.

CS

Thanks for letting us know how much better your doing. I could have written some of your post as I also had severe joint involvement. It is so nice to be able to button a shirt, hold a pen or a screwdriver and type again. I also had negative blood tests but my GI didn't get to do the endo because he demanded a gluten challenge. He told me I only had to do one for a couple of days since I had only been gluten free (and day and night D free) for a couple of months. Long story short when it came time for me to leave for the procedure I was laying on the bathroom floor bleeding freely from my intestines. I had never bled before the challenge but even now 10 years later bleeding is part of my gluten reaction but thankfully not as severe. I got my diagnosis after many many years of severe illness and nerve impact that would take years to resolve. I wish doctors wouldn't put so much faith in those blood tests especially in those of us with neuro and joint issues. If they had told me when they first started testing me for celiac to try the diet despite the negative bloods maybe, just maybe I would have had a full recovery. Don't get me wrong I am happy to have recovered as much as I have but it would be nice not to have to worry about the kidney and heart damage that all those years of inflammation gave me.

anabananakins Explorer

And there have been awful instances of family members glutening people on purpose, lying that something was gluten free to prove to them they don't really have a problem with gluten. One poor woman was glutened on purpose by a family member and then after she ate a whole meal that sad excuse for a human being gloated and said "See you just ate gluten and you're fine." The celiac person broke out in a horrible DH rash all over her body and was very sick from that.

So you have to know your audience.

Very good point about needing to know your audience, I've read stories like that too and they just horrify me, people wouldn't do that with rat poison (I hope!) but they do that with something that's going to hurt the person very much. It's just awful, and I don't understand why people could be so awful when they'd probably be supportive if it were cancer or heart disease. Gluten is weird, it makes people behave so strangely.

If the blood tests have a 20-30% false negative rate, you'd think they'd try real hard to come up with a better test? Even the genetic tests aren't very good. They can tell if you *might* get Celiac, but that's only if you have DQ2 and/or DQ8. They know there are more genes involved, but say it's rare to have them. Maybe it's not so rare? Maybe those without the two main ones are being mis-Dxed too?

I would love to know more about the different genes because my test results were so emphatic that I could not possibly have it because I don't have the DQ2 or DQ8 genes. I have something wrong with me that not eating gluten fixes, I wish someone was interested enough in researching why that might be rather than being fixated on it not possibly being celiac. It's frustrating.

sandsurfgirl Collaborator

Enterolab is promising but as far as I know he still hasn't been peer reviewed has he? It all takes so much time and red tape for studies to be done too. And then there is the American know it all syndrome where we don't always take studies and testing from other countries into account because we think we have to invent everything for it to be valid.

JNBunnie1 Community Regular

Enterolab is promising but as far as I know he still hasn't been peer reviewed has he? It all takes so much time and red tape for studies to be done too. And then there is the American know it all syndrome where we don't always take studies and testing from other countries into account because we think we have to invent everything for it to be valid.

I know! How many countries are so far ahead of us in this, yet we've decided we know best? I think part of it is that our medical care system is so controlled by big pharma, and there's no drug to take to cure Celiac is there?

chasbari Apprentice

Thanks for letting us know how much better your doing. I could have written some of your post as I also had severe joint involvement. It is so nice to be able to button a shirt, hold a pen or a screwdriver and type again. I also had negative blood tests but my GI didn't get to do the endo because he demanded a gluten challenge. He told me I only had to do one for a couple of days since I had only been gluten free (and day and night D free) for a couple of months. Long story short when it came time for me to leave for the procedure I was laying on the bathroom floor bleeding freely from my intestines. I had never bled before the challenge but even now 10 years later bleeding is part of my gluten reaction but thankfully not as severe. I got my diagnosis after many many years of severe illness and nerve impact that would take years to resolve. I wish doctors wouldn't put so much faith in those blood tests especially in those of us with neuro and joint issues. If they had told me when they first started testing me for celiac to try the diet despite the negative bloods maybe, just maybe I would have had a full recovery. Don't get me wrong I am happy to have recovered as much as I have but it would be nice not to have to worry about the kidney and heart damage that all those years of inflammation gave me.

And yet, here I am after a very rough stretch of days. Granted, It is nowhere near as bad as it used to be .. but... Ate some organic stuff that slipped under the radar as far as having some ingredients I haven't had for years. Honest mistake.. but.. my joints feel like one of those barbequed chickens from the store that you could just pull apart and I have had intestinal spasms. Yes.. it certainly seems that all the reactions are far worse once the culprit is identified and removed from the diet. It's like it's this red flag that emphatically says "no more....EVER!" I often wonder where I would be had I not had a lifetime of fallout from all this. People like to say I am so lucky to have figured it all out but the wounds go so deep it's hard to get anyone to really understand. I look so much better (well.. that's a matter of opinion) so when I have a day like today, as rare as it has become, I still have a hard time and feel like I need to explain why I just feel like doing nothing until the pain, nausea and discomfort go away.. And yet I press on doing what I can.. I also worry about the long term consequences of such severe systemic inflammation and wonder what it has done to my outlook for longevity. Because of that, I try to live much more for today. That has been, perhaps, the greatest upside of this.

CS

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      So the strange thing is I don't have any symptoms at all, except the soft stools (comes and goes) which they told me was from the Lymphocytic colitis. I had some mild positives on my antibody test and one gene was positive which is what made my doctor go ahead with the endoscopy. The reason they started any of this was finding the lymphocytic colitis this past summer after I had C Diff and she said, Well....it may be from something like Celiac.... Definitely a lot to learn through all of this and I appreciate people like you taking the time to help out a stranger like me!
    • trents
      Well, I wouldn't rule either out. And you might consider trialing a gluten free diet for a few months to see if symptoms improve. That would tell you a lot. By the way, the incidence of other bowel diseases is higher in the celiac population than it is in the general population. And even if you don't have celiac disease, you could have NCGS. Gluten is just problematic for a lot of folks for various reasons.
    • Sking
      Thanks for taking a look. I also just did some research and saw that increased numbers of intraepithelial lymphocytes and villous distortion can possibly be from lymphocytic colitis (which I was diagnosed with this past summer)....so fingers crossed this is what she will say it is.  
    • trents
      IMO, Part 3 has some abnormalties that could indicate the early stages of celiac disease but the doctor is tentatively thinking not, at least at this point.
    • Sking
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