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I would have your doctor biopsy the rash. It needs to be done next to the lesions, not directly on them. If it is DH, this should show up. Since you have had bloodwork done already, and are 3 wks gluten free, I would stick with the diet. I can relate to the major fatigue, but for me it was 6-7 mos on the gluten-free diet before I noticed a difference in fatigue. You may want to remove casein (milk protein) for now too. It is pretty inflammatory and for mme, that really kicked the fatigue in the butt for good.

I think you are on the right path, but healing is a slow process at times, so don't get discouraged!

Mom-of-Two Contributor

I am 4 months gluten free and JUST starting to feel increase in energy, decrease in fatigue, and it hasn't been drastic. Some take more time!

squirmingitch Veteran

A biopsy of the dh rash is almost certain to turn up negative. First --- there is a 37% false neg. rate. 2nd --- the OP has been gluten free for 3 weeks & just like with all the other celiac tests you must be eating gluten even for the dh biopsy. 3rd; if you have been on steroids anytime within the preceding 2 months the dh biopsy will be negative.

Considering everything if the biopsy turned up positive it would be a total fluke.

GFinDC Veteran

Fatigue is definitely a common complaint with celiac. I agree, it doesn't go away over night. Nine months would be more like it IMHO. But people are different and some get better much faster. Others don't

If your tests are negative that doesn't mean you don't have celiac. If they are positive it does mean you have celiac. If they are negative you are left with figuring it out yourself by testing your body with a diet. The gluten-free diet. It's the only treatment anyway, so may as well do it and see what happens in 3 months or so. It doesn't matter how much money you pay doctors for more testing, they can't figure it out quicker than you can by doing the diet. And in the meantime if you are right you will begin healing your gut and body and getting better. That's a pretty good deal really.

Dugudugu Rookie

Thank you all!

After all those years being tired and now, finally thinking to have found the cause, it's hard to hold when no improvements are visible. It's like reaching the finish but not able to touch it. You made me clear to give it a loooot more time. Thank you for the support.

I'll cancel the new doc and will wait patiently for improvements.

beachbirdie Contributor

Okay, here’s my story, you've a minute or two left?

The GP (he’s a good guy after all) requested celiac test based on low B12 and IgA. That test came back as following:

IgA anti-tTG (tissue transglutaminase): < 1 U/ml (negative),

IgA anti- Deamidated gliadine: 5 AE/ml (negative),

A-Endomisium: negative.

So that was a huge disappointment when these results came back. I was crying because all felt so in place if I was suffering from celiac disease.

Thanks to this forum I shortly found out that the blood test says nothing, and that even with a negative endoscopy I could still suffer from celiac disease or have a gluten sensitivity.

Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions for a newbie, and of course, thanks for reading!

You are correct, you discovered that the celiac testing they did is completely invalid. Your total IgA is LOW, and the doctor only ran IgA versions of the celiac tests. They are useless. :angry: Dumb doctors.

You have many signs that do point to celiac (not diagnosing here, not a doctor) and you should get IgG versions of celiac tests as well as biopsy, and biopsy of rash. You should also get thyroid testing. I do not see that was done. TSH, Free T3 and Free T4. Possibly thyroid antibodies (anti-TPO and anti-thyroglobulin for starters).

If gluten free makes you well, that is a strong indication for you!

Welcome aboard, by the way! :)


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Thank you all.

The rash is already gone.

Will try to get the other test done. Will keep you update by the time.

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