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Does Bcm7 (A Milk Opiod) Initiate Celiac Disease?

icm

By icm
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Um guys, you might want to go do some reading before you keep piling on with the skepticism and unsupportive posts. This is an interesting question and not as far-fetched as everyone seems to believe. There is a enough literature on cows milk and diabetes that I couldn't begin to summarize it. It's pretty clear that feeding cows milk in early infancy increases the incidence of T1. What's not clear is whether it has anything to do with A1 milk or BCM7. Casomorphins do get into the bloodstream, are active on opioid receptors, and can have effects on peripheral blood mononucleocytes.

One paper on A1 milk and a rebuttal that doesn't seem to have industry bias. (There is a lot of trouble with very biased and selectively referenced milk industry papers in the A1 casein literature.)

Open Original Shared Link

Open Original Shared Link

If cows milk has the ability to trigger type 1 diabetes (whether or not the mechanism is BCM7), given the links between the diseases it seems an interesting question as to whether it could predispose to celiac.

I looked at the information provided in the second link, Skylark. It appears as though (at least according to Keith Woodford) there may be some industry bias here too. The professor explains here:

from Open Original Shared Link

What readers of that correspondence would not be aware of was that Professor Truswell, who used his University of Sydney designation, was also a paid consultant to Fonterra in relation specifically to A1 and A2. If Professor Truswell had acknowledged his relationship with Fonterra then his inital paper would have received much greater scrutiny before publication.

from Open Original Shared Link

What Truswell chooses to ignore is that the A2 diets were seriously contaminated with BCM7, which is precisely the nasty peptide released from A1 beta-casein. This contamination was known to Dairy Research Institute (DRI), now Fonterra, scientists who supplied the diets long before publication of the results.

I'd appreciate your thoughts on this, as it seems there are problems with some of this research. What is going on?

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