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Imagine If This Happened In The Us....

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10,000 swedish kids getting tested for celiac disease in schools. :blink:

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tarnalberry Community Regular
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I wish! That's sweet!

Guest DanceswithWolves
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I wish!  That's sweet!

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Why does it seem that many countries are so much more advanced in medicine, knowlegde and techniques than we are?

That's AMAZING!

Wouldn't it be something if after all these years, Gluten affected everyone? Even when I was sitting in the waiting room of the hospital weeks ago, there was a nice Hispanic man and his wife sitting across from me holding a huge bag of pill containers. I noticed that in that bag was a box of "off the shelf" Acid reducers.

What is really going on?

skoki-mom Explorer
skoki-mom
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Sounds like a good idea to me. I think I read somewhere that all Italian children are diagnosed as well. I could see it happening in Canada if there was more awareness. It could save a lot of people a lot of suffering............

jenvan Collaborator
jenvan
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wow--wouldn't all those tests save a lot of money by preventing more tests and medications in the future...

elonwy Enthusiast
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It's called capitalism out of control, and its why I'm a fan of some sort of socialized health care or at a minimum health care reform. Most western european nations have a form of socialized or state run medical care, so the health care system and who gets care is not dictated by insurance companies and pharmacuetical companies the way it is here. Everyone gets care, regardless. I've lived most of my life without insurance, and now have very good insurance and there is a huge difference in care. Our health care system isn't about medicine, its about money. So we're falling behind. Alot of good doctors will try to help people regardless and try to circumvent a broken system to help people, but it just has to change.

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It's called capitalism out of control, and its why I'm a fan of some sort of socialized health care or at a minimum health care reform. Most western european nations have a form of socialized or state run medical care, so the health care system and who gets care is not dictated by insurance companies and pharmacuetical companies the way it is here. Everyone gets care, regardless. I've lived most of my life without insurance, and now have very good insurance and there is a huge difference in care. Our health care system isn't about medicine, its about money. So we're falling behind. Alot of good doctors will try to help people regardless and try to circumvent a broken system to help people, but it just has to change.

<sigh>

Elonwy

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Couldn't have said it better myself! :)

M..O...N...E...Y... :angry:

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Claire Collaborator
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wow--wouldn't all those tests save a lot of money by preventing more tests and medications in the future...

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That's probably why this won't happen here. We have to feed Big Pharma. It is sort of the law of the land.

ianm Apprentice
ianm
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If everyone in the US was tested for celiac disease and went on a gluten free diet the the drug companies would go out of business. It is not in their financial interest for us to get healthy. We get fatter and sicker and that suites the medical establishment just fine.

Carriefaith Enthusiast
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10,000 swedish kids getting tested for celiac disease in schools.
Nice! B) Hopefully more countries will start doing this.

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