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Frustrated With Conflicting Msg Reports And Link To Celiac


TDL363

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TDL363 Newbie

Have been sick for over 30 years....thought it was MSG but recently found out I am celiac. I have read many articles that link MSG to wheat....many sites list items to avoid because they are another name for MSG (anything hydrolyzed). People DON'T EAT IT...DEFINITE LINK TO WHEAT INTOLERANCE. I have not heard of anyone with celiac or gluten intolerance that can tolerate MSG . Don't say it is Celiac safe... that statement is NOT TRUE

MONOSODIUM GLUTAMATE (MSG)

Monosodium glutamate is the sodium salt of glutamic acid, an amino acid present in virtually all proteins, including meats, vegetables, poultry, cheese, cow's milk, and human milk.

The process for producing MSG imported from some parts of world cannot be confirmed. MSG could be produced from wheat gluten in those areas.

It is therefore recommended that Celiac- Sprue patients exercise caution in using this ingredient.

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MSG can be extracted from any protein. It occurs naturally in every protein as as glutamic acid. When the protein is broken down, the glutamate gets loose. If it finds sodium, it bonds, forming Monosodium Glutamate.

Some people, including some celiacs, react to concentrated MSG. But it has nothing to do with celiac disease. If MSG is derived from wheat, in the US it must by federal law be clearly disclosed as "wheat" on the label. Canada has a similar rule.

Hydrolyzed protein, like any protein, is a source of MSG. Again, in the US (and in Canada) if the protein is wheat protein (gluten), then the word "wheat" must appear on the label.

There are things we need to worry about. MSG is definitely not one of them.

If you have a credible source that says otherwise, please provide a link.

Adalaide Mentor

Your confusion is likely the same as my own was early on. This was brought on be old information that is no longer relevant (due to today's labeling laws) and information that is relevant only in other parts of the world not really saying such boldly. As Peter pointed out, here in North America we have nothing to fear from MSG, at least in the celiac sense. I understand it can trigger migraines but that is completely unrelated.

mommida Enthusiast

In the U.S. it should be labeled if the MSG was derived from wheat.

So the PC way to say this is read the label and know the label laws the country of origin for the product.

That being said some people are sensitive/intolerant to MSG. If it makes you sick, don't eat it.

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