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Help--Recently Diagnosed--Mostly Vegetarian Eater......gluten Free Diet Panic


sofismom

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sofismom Newbie

I was semi- diagnosed about a month ago, and after many tests, ( many)...... confirmed diagnosis from my doctor yesterday morning. So..... I began trying to figure out this gluten free diet, which started with a trip to my grocery store, that left me very depressed. My head is literally spinning trying to figure out how to eat this way. The other, slightly big problem, is that I mostly eat veggie. ( not a strict veggie----once in a while--less than once a month, I will have a few bites of steak or chicken) and I do still eat animal products, eggs etc.. I mostly just don't do "meats". Well, I have always relied on delicious pasta and breads to give me "bulk" calories, as eating fresh fruits and vegetables all day doesn't really supply a lot of calorie intake. I am a thin person, and to not be down right skinny, I have always looked for extra calories. Well, most of those things are now forbidden. I don't know how I am going to keep weight on. I don't even know how I am going to figure out how to eat gluten free....... I feel like it is in everything........ at least everything I keep checking. We eat out ALL the time, and how in the world can one eat out and eat safely? I have spent so much time on the computer, trying to learn as much as possible about this, and it is, to say the least, overwhelming beyond belief.

Yesterday I went to bed hungry, ( despite the many rice cakes I ate to fill myself) as I simply couldn't find gluten free meals/dishes in the store, and didn't have any recipes yet. I got some snacks, and plenty of extra fresh veggies to have something to eat at all. Today, breakfast was okay, as I made three eggs, using smart balance butter, and a bowl of fruit. I would have also had yogurt, but found online that Dannon Oikos "may" contain gluten, so that was nixed. For lunch we went to Texas Roadhouse, as I got routed to them from a few sites stating that they had a gluten free menu....... well, that turned into a disaster..... so i ate some steamed carrots and broccoli there, ( which according to what I have read since coming home, was likely subjected to cross contamination)! I'm about to head to a different grocery store, in an attempt to get something!! We live about 2.5 hours from San Diego and go there often so I plan on hitting whole foods the next time to check out there options for gluten free.

It is taking everything I have to not flat out panic, simply because it just seems so difficult.

I did check all my vitamins and supplements and it looks like all of them are gluten free, ( a few even state it on the package) so that was good news! Although, according to what my doctor said, the reason I am deficient in so many ways, despite taking supplements like crazy, is a direct result of the Celiac and my body not absorbing....so until I get this under control and 100% adhere to this diet, I guess the supplements are pointless anyway.

Uggghhhhhh...so frustrating! Am I over reacting to this, or is this normal to feel this way? Any help with the diet would be soooo appreciated. :)


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Briefly - beans, lentils, rice, corn, quinoa, millet, amaranth, and buckwheat are all other sources of complex carbohydrates that can help bulk up your meals. Use plenty of fats in cooking (like olive oil and coconut oil and avocados) and don't shy away from nuts and seeds! You might also look into making baked goods from nut flours.

Also... I hate to be a downer, but eating out often... yeah, not really compatible with a gluten free diet. I'm not saying you can't do it, but you have to find the right restaurants (get to know the people), make sure they are avoiding cross contamination risks, and realize that, despite all your effort, you may get contaminated when other people are in control of your food.

captaincrab55 Collaborator

There may be a reason why your so thin, Celiac Disease! It appears that you have use of the Internet. With that, one can find many gluten-free recipes. Search the web, it worked for me. Good Luck,

Pauliewog Contributor

I started eating gluten free as a vegetarian in Feb. I found I was always hungry and never really felt "good." On the forum I read about the Paleo/Primal diets and started looking into that. Now, 10 months later, I am eating meats and feeling great! I am not happy to eat meat but I do (a lot of eggs and fish, some chicken, occasional pork/beef). I think one thing that has helped a lot is upping my fat. I now cook things in "real" butter. I have started eating full fat yogurt off and on. I also add coconut cream to my coffee. This I think has helped me feel full. As an example, today for breakfast I had eggplant cooked in butter topped with cheese and two eggs along with the coffee/coconut cream. Meals like this help me feel full. Lunch was okra cooked in butter, salmon and a handful of olives. For a snack I'll eat an apple with peanut butter.

You can eat lots of sweet potatoes (make oven fries or fry them), regular potatoes (butter/sour cream), avocados.... If you are fine with corn then get fresh corn tortillas and make fajitas (with or without meat).

As stated, avoid eating out. It is an adjustment but you just have to make sure all meals are prepared. I just returned from a 14 day trip to California and I ONLY ate out once and that was fries at In-N-Out because I was too afraid of getting sick in restaurants. I cooked all my meals at my hotel or in friend's homes. Better than spending a day of vacation sick!

Monklady123 Collaborator

One thing that helped me was to make a list of everything that is naturally gluten free. After you start writing you'll realize that most things are gluten free. In fact, everything is naturally gluten free except wheat, barley, and rye (and some of the "cousins" such as spelt). And a few things like oats, which are naturally gluten free but are usually contaminated by processing. (so buy the ones certified gluten free).

So, once you realize that almost everything is gluten free then you can start thinking about cooking. This is winter, so what about soups? Hearty vegetable soup is great. You can put some gluten free pasta in if you want, or rice. Split pea or lentil soups are good. What about quiche? You can make a gluten free crust from gluten-free Bisquick (easiest) or from a gluten-free flour blend (second easiest) , or from scratch (which I would never do, lol). Or you can make crustless quiche. Lasagna using gluten-free pasta. Stir fry with tofu. If you do eat some meat occasionally then what about fish? My supposedly-vegetarian daughter will eat fish. -- Nuts are gluten-free, have peanut butter for some protein. Look up "African peanut stew" -- we LOVE this served on rice. -- I discovered quinoa when I was diagnosed. I make a quinoa/brocolli/cheese casserole that everyone loves. My dd eats just that, and then I'll cook up some sausage for the meat eaters. -- Grilled cheese and tomato soup? yum...

Once you start looking around you'll realize that everything you cooked before either already is gluten free or can be made gluten free by using gluten-free pasta, or cornstarch instead of wheat flour to thicken, or things like that.

As for eating out....well, that's more difficult. The best advice I was given was to call each of the restaurants that I had liked to go to and talk to the manager and/or chef. Call when they're not busy. Then I found several things at each restaurant that I like to order and those are my go-to items. Yes, it's hard. I remember early after I was diagnosed I went to a local sandwich/pizza place (Lost Dog Cafe, for anyone who knows that place). The only thing I could eat was a salad since I didn't want to pay the price they were asking for the gluten free pizza. Everyone else had these yummy smelling/looking pizzas or gooey sandwiches. I felt very sorry for myself. :P Now I just don't go there, or I order the gluten-free pizza.

I think what we have to come to realize is that the company is more important than the food. There will always be something to eat at a restaurant, even if it's just a drink and a baked potato. But being there with our friends is the most important thing. It's hard in the beginning but it does eventually get easier.

Hope some of this helps. :)

dilettantesteph Collaborator

I am vegetarian and gluten free. It isn't as hard as you are thinking. You can eat eggs, cheese, yogurt, potatoes, sweet potatoes, avocados, beans, nuts, buckwheat, oil and butter for more calories. I ate meat for a little while because I thought I had to, but it didn't do me any good, and I just don't like it. I'm not any worse for not eating it again now. I was vegan for a long time too also without additional issues. You just need some time to wrap your head around the whole thing. Roasted root veggies with olive oil are really good. There is nothing wrong with being lean as long as you are not hungry. Rice cakes aren't enough to fill up anyone.

LauraB0927 Apprentice

I am not a vegetarian, but I do understand your feelings of panic right after being diagnosed! I was completely overwhelmed in the food store the first few times, but please believe me when I say that you get used to it and it becomes easier as you go along. The newbie thread is a great source of information and I would definitely encourage you to read that as soon as you can. Quinoa is a great source of complex carbs and protein and if you cook it with chicken broth instead of water it gives it a great flavor. Although we always recommend to start with a whole foods diet in the beginning (until you heal more), if you need that pasta to keep you going, corn pasta is gluten free and is a great alternative to regular pasta. I served it to my extended family yesterday and they couldn't tell the difference! Also, try taking a digestive enzyme along with probiotics to help you process and digest these foods until your gut heals more.

P.S. there are some apps (if you have a smartphone) that will help you locate gluten free restaurants. People post reviews and let you know if they've had any issues with cross contamination. The one I use is called Gluten Free Registry and its been very helpful, but its probably better not to eat out for a while until you get the hang of it.

Welcome to the forum and feel free to ask any questions that you have!! Everyone on here is amazingly supportive...


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I used to live in Oceanside near you. There is Whole Foods in your area. Find a clerk to help you. Yes it is nornal to feel this way. Lots of people have panic attacks when they first get celiac. I did. It was super bad. For me almost post war disorder. I was a real mess. Sometimes I get to be a mess again when I have a mystery flare like today. As for bread, there are many good gluten-free breads. I like them better than regular bread. and there are tons and tons of gluten-free pasta out there. They take a while to get used to but are ok. We eat them all the time. I hope that helps. Get some good gluten-free magazines. There are many out there. Check amazon or ask others what they like. But I garantee, in San Diego you will have lots of support. My aunt is in SanDiego and finds good gluten-free food because she is gluten sensitive. So I know it is there. Let us know if we can be of more help.

I just read post above. Be careful eating out until you heal. I would avoid it for a few months. Learn from my mistakes. It can mess you up in the beginning learning what you can eat. Many people have lots of other issues too as you will learn on here. Food issues that is.

sofismom Newbie

Briefly - beans, lentils, rice, corn, quinoa, millet, amaranth, and buckwheat are all other sources of complex carbohydrates that can help bulk up your meals. Use plenty of fats in cooking (like olive oil and coconut oil and avocados) and don't shy away from nuts and seeds! You might also look into making baked goods from nut flours.

Also... I hate to be a downer, but eating out often... yeah, not really compatible with a gluten free diet. I'm not saying you can't do it, but you have to find the right restaurants (get to know the people), make sure they are avoiding cross contamination risks, and realize that, despite all your effort, you may get contaminated when other people are in control of your food.

Sadly, over the last few days, I have found that eating out is going to be close to impossible for me. At least for an actual meal. I can go with my family and eat whatever item may be okay, ( as long as cross-contamination is unlikely), but to go and just eat somewhere doesn't seem likely. :-( When we travel, I don't know yet how that will work.

sofismom Newbie

There may be a reason why your so thin, Celiac Disease! It appears that you have use of the Internet. With that, one can find many gluten-free recipes. Search the web, it worked for me. Good Luck,

Thanks! Yes, the internet has been my saving grace, or else I would be totally lost right now.

sofismom Newbie

Thanks!! All of these replies have really helped. I am consumed right now reading online and trying to be as educated as possible about all of this. I have "somewhat" started to get used to looking at ingredients every time I pick anything up. I was cooking yesterday, and even spices, before using any, I ran to my computer to check the additional ingredients/additives. If it was questionable, then it wasn't used. Such a drastic change................ My new issue is my one and only vice...... a Corona beer, ( which almost all beers are off limits), and although there are a few that are gluten free, I doubt I would like them. I don't particularly love beer, but I do love Corona! I don't smoke, have always eaten healthy, ( at least what I thought was healthy, w/o knowing I had this disease), exercise, blah, blah, blah........, but an ice cold Corona has been my drink of choice on a hot afternoon, while at a sports event, concert, while doing yard work, while cooking in the kitchen with my children, while relaxing on my porch.......... I will have to find a substitute for this......... I do enjoy wine, and have had a couple glasses over the last few days, ( only after ensuring it was a gluten free wine), but, somehow, it is not as satisfying. So life altering this disease. :-(

gatita Enthusiast

I was never a big beer drinker but I understand the occasional Corona craving. I drink hard cider now (Trader Joe's has a really nice pear cider) and enjoy it a lot!

I think the biggest change at first for many (me anyway) is not eating out. It took me months to realize I...just...can't...do it. :( That was always one of my favorite pleasures. I've gotten to know a few restaurants that have been safe so far, but the idea of going out and discovering someplace brand-new is out for now.

The upside is you may discover as I have that you can really enjoy cooking great food at home and save a ton of money! :)

ps. My best friend is vegetarian and we enjoy making lots of gluten-free veggie meals together. Mexican cuisine tends to mostly be gluten-free anyway, so that's our staple.

GFinDC Veteran

Hi Sofismom,

Spices are usually ok, as long as they are just one spice, not a blend or seasoning mix. McCormick brand has a good rep for spices, but same thing, you need to verify blends or mixes. Or just don't use them.

You can spend a lot of time in the grocery store reading ingredients on processed foods, or you can switch to a whole foods diet and make shopping simpler. Eating out is not a good idea for beginners on the gluten-free diet. One of the important things to learn for newbies, is what the heck they are eating every day, and how to avoid things that make them sick. Eating food other people prepared is not going to teach you what ingredients are risky, since you generally don't know what they are putting in the food. It's much better to eat a limited number of simple foods at first, so you can make sure they are gluten-free. If you think about how people ate 100 years ago, that is a good start, minus the wheat, rye, barley and oats.

There is a potential for untreated celiacs to have higher than normal liver enzymes (that's bad). So I think it is better for people to avoid alcohol at first. After a while off gluten, the liver enzymes normalize usually.

Some tests that are good to get are vitamin and mineral levels. Celiac disease damages the small intestine and impairs it's ability to absorb nutrients, so people often have low vitamin and mineral levels. That is probably why you are skinny, from malabsorption. After a while on the gluten-free diet, you may heal up your gut and begin to absorb better. And then it should be easier to maintain a good weight.

The damage to the small intestinal villi, can cause problems digesting lactose (diary sugar). But that problem is not universal for all celiacs. There are a lot of different ways celiac can affect us, and people tend to have a wide variety of symptoms.

Getting started is the tough part, but it tends to get easier with time.

Some starting the gluten-free diet tips for the first 6 months:

Get tested before starting the gluten-free diet.

Get your vitamin/mineral levels tested also.

Don't eat in restaurants

Eat only whole foods not processed foods.

Eat only food you cook yourself, think simple foods, not gourmet meals.

Take probiotics.

Take gluten-free vitamins.

Take digestive enzymes.

Avoid dairy.

Avoid sugars and starchy foods.

Avoid alcohol.

Helpful threads:

FAQ Celiac com

https://www.celiac.com/gluten-free/forum-7/announcement-3-frequently-asked-questions-about-celiac-disease/

Newbie Info 101

What's For Breakfast Today?

What Did You Have For Lunch Today?

Monklady123 Collaborator

About that beer.... you might give Redbridge a try. It's pretty good, especially when it's ice cold and the weather is hot. Before celiac I liked dark beers so it took a few tries for me to like Redbridge. But I really think that we do forget exactly how something tasted after awhile. I'm satisfied with Redbridge now. -- Other alcoholic choices might be a wine cooler, or the hard cider someone mentioned. And my family's summer staple, a gin and tonic. :)

DownWithGluten Explorer

Hey, hope you're feeling less overwhelmed. I think we can all relate to that initial disappointment and despair. Even the rice cakes...haha, for the first few months all I ate were random rice chips and like chicken broth.

But don't despair, it's not as bleak as it seems. I've been gluten free for six years now and can pretty much eat whatever I want...however, yes, the eating out thing will not be the same. I'm reduced to about 3 or 4 options and don't have the freedom to just eat out on the fly. Before I go on any trip, I still take about 3-4 hours researching restaurants in the area. Etc.

But my main point is, even as a vegetarian, I can say with confidance that you'll be able to eat practically as much as you did before. Restricted to certain brands, will take a lot of Googling and callin companies...but once you find your "safe" go to brands and items, you'll be set. I don't feel at all deprived eating at home. (Again, yes the freedom to eat out or eat at work functions or parties etc...indeed not the same. But as far as cravings, eating what I want on a regular basis...no problem!) My friend I love pasta and bread, too. I used to just go to bakeries and eat bread for lunch, and pasta is one of my favorite things. they're beginning to make better tasting gluten free bread. And the brown rice gluten free pasta, to me, tastes the same as "real" pasta. I swear to you I don't miss "real" pasta in the slightest. The texture is more obnoxious and doesn't hold as well -- but the taste is perfect. I was afraid to try it the first time but was so pleasantly surprised. It's not like whole wheat pasta which does have a drastic taste difference.

You can still have all your veggies. With some research, you can find salad dressings and dips that are gluten free. And regular brands, too. Like Kraft and Newmann's. Not everything has to be organic or "healthy" brands. Although sometimes those are more convinient b/c they take the time to label products as gluten free. But I'm sayin,' you can go grab a bag of Cheetos and pop in some M&Ms and be fine. All is not lost...it's just a matter of finding substitutes to the main things like pasta, cookies, bread...and a matter of doing the grunt work of calling brands and research brands online,... (pretty much, don't eat anything unless you have checked beforehand or unless it's labelled as gluten free. that's my rule). I don't know how much cooking you've done, but you will likely have to rely on preparing your own ingredients and less on pre-made things (like hamburger helper types). Anyway, once you have your safe brands, you're good to go. (Though good to check ingredients from time to time as products can change).

Conveniently for you, as far as frozen meals and that sorta thing... gluten free and vegeterian often get lumped together so you should be able to find variety there too. Usually only healthy and organic brands do the 'frozen food's' though.

(A note with the vegetarian thing __ one hindrance to look out for is 'vegetarian' meat. They almost always have wheat in them. So, those occasional bites of real chicken you mentioned might have to suffice instead.)

And like someone else said, hard cider is a great non-strong "fun" beverage to have instead of beer. And more and more varities of gluten-free beer seem to be cropping up.

Hope that helps. Don't feel you have to resign yourself to rice cakes and carrots forever. With research (and give yourself time :) ) you can still have flavor and fun and eat just as much as you used to.

DownWithGluten Explorer

Oh and, just more on this...as far as restaurants. Probably the best and most consistent one I've found to work is Outback Steakhouse. I know, you don't eat meat! But I have a vegan sister and she can find things there. As well, P.F. Changs is good, they even bring their gluten free dishes out on a different kind of plate and the staff always seem to remember to warn you not to eat the regular sauces and offer to bring out gluten-free soy sauce. I've had success with Uno's as well. Depending on where you live, some areas have a lot more cute little non-chain places that offer gluten free items, more than others. (mine is one of the 'others' but I've travelled to places with better options haha). Chipotle has always worked for me, too, however some more sensitive people may advise against it. Do not eat the flour tortillas. I avoid the salad dressing and the hottest salsa as well.

Always, you have to give them the song and dance about your diet and double check that they know what you mean and that they will avoid cross contamination. I get all whip-cracking on them, and usually have to witness with my own eyes that they write down 'gluten free' next to my order. I stress it to them probably at least five times. It's very annoying but better safe than sorry. You can usually size up how comfortable the waiter is by how they respond. For example, If they ask you "well you tell me what you can eat" it's not a good sign. I've seen many a face fall, a bead of sweat drip, a tremor of nervousness when I mention to them that I'm gluten free and will get sick if I consume it. lol. I will be stubborn and resort to "can you ask the chef? the chef should know.." b/c sometimes the waiters are just ignorant. I had one guy who was sarcastic and rude when I asked to double check about their broccoli dish, he was all "uum it's broccoli" (but of course, what about the seasoning?) and then he came back basically groveling and apologetic so I assume the chef put him in his place. Anyway...it is definitely a song and dance. For new and unfamiliar places (still, I try to stick to ones that I've found have gluten free options online)...it's ALWAYS recommended to call them ahead of time and go through the whole song and dance. Being honest, this is all a huge pain the butt. There will be heartbreak and frustration and anger navigating "eating out." Your friends and family are going ot have to get used to eating at the same 2-3 places a million times, or just eat out less...or on occasion you'll have to eat beforehand and just sit and drink some Coke while they eat. Awkward but I've done to at least still go out and socialize. I feel I've struck a balance. But I do so long for the days when I could just eat out on a whim, without having to plan it beforehand, stress about it all day...etc.

there's an art to the gluten free restaurant dining experience. Let me know if you have any more questions. I feel I air on the more strident, "paranoid" side. Then again, there are people more strident than me who wouldn't recommend ever eating out. So...you'll find your level of comfort. again, in time!

Pegleg84 Collaborator

Panic is normal. I think we all had a bit of that.

Being gluten free and vegetarian should not be much trouble. As long as you can still handle dairy and soy. As someone mentioned, be especially careful of veggie "meats" and such, as they often will have gluten as filler, but tofu can replace most of that. (one reason why I don't

Even though it's more expensive, an organic/natural foods store might be the best way to find what you need as replacements. When you're healing it's better to stick to as simple as possible. Gluten-free or not, the fewer the ingredients the better. Eat lots of rice, nuts, cheese, avocadoes, etc etc.

Eating out is always the stickler. I still get burned for not asking enough questions. If you can avoid eating out, do. Ask people over for dinner and cook yourself. If you're travelling, bring lots of snacks and some foods you can make a meal out of easily, even if it means a lot of snacking. (Again, avocadoes! What would I do without them...). When you do eat out, ask a million questions. Indian and Vietamese are good for both gluten-free and vegetarian.

Anyway, take a breath. You'll be ok. an the more you heal the better you'll feel. It's early days.

Happy healing

Peg

General Ludd Rookie

When I learned I couldn't eat gluten anymore, I had a pretty hard time too. Eating out, pot-lucks, social gatherings, family gatherings are still a challenge, but nowhere near as bad as I originally expected. The worst thing is to dwell on what you're going to miss. I used to bake bread regularly, I grieved at the loss of this simple pleasure, but after a few years and some accidental glutenings, the thought of bread of any kind is unappealing. I don't miss it one bit.

As for beer, I used to love a thick stout and dabbled in homebrew a bit. Beer was one of the first foods that I had trouble with when my gluten sensitivity started becoming noticeable. So I had stopped drinking it long before I realized I had a problem with Gluten. Since then I've had some of the sorghum and rice beers and they are both quite light and flavorful. I don't remember what Corona tastes like, but sorghum can be made into a light pilsner (but with a distinct aftertaste). It reminded me so much of beer my body got ready for trouble that never hit.

If you are foodie (I am not, but I like tasty food), go to the recipe sites like Open Original Shared Link for inspiration and hope. There are so many delicious foods out there. I like to remind my family that most of the food in the world is gluten free. My mom has become quite the skilled gluten-free pie and home-made gluten-free ravioli maker! I don't know how she does it, but you can't tell the difference. In fact, I think gluten-free pie crusts can easily be better than wheat ones!

Luddie Newbie

Panic is normal. I think we all had a bit of that.

Being gluten free and vegetarian should not be much trouble. As long as you can still handle dairy and soy. As someone mentioned, be especially careful of veggie "meats" and such, as they often will have gluten as filler, but tofu can replace most of that. (one reason why I don't

Even though it's more expensive, an organic/natural foods store might be the best way to find what you need as replacements. When you're healing it's better to stick to as simple as possible. Gluten-free or not, the fewer the ingredients the better. Eat lots of rice, nuts, cheese, avocadoes, etc etc.

Eating out is always the stickler. I still get burned for not asking enough questions. If you can avoid eating out, do. Ask people over for dinner and cook yourself. If you're travelling, bring lots of snacks and some foods you can make a meal out of easily, even if it means a lot of snacking. (Again, avocadoes! What would I do without them...). When you do eat out, ask a million questions. Indian and Vietamese are good for both gluten-free and vegetarian.

Anyway, take a breath. You'll be ok. an the more you heal the better you'll feel. It's early days.

Happy healing

Peg

I agree, the longer you're doing this the easier and better it gets. Yes, eating out is almost impossible, but so be it. I'd rather feel good all the time. One thing I'd suggest when you're starting out on this journey. Don't think you can safely use foods labeled "gluten free" as many have substances in them that will bother you. Some of the gums that are used instead of gluten to thicken and stabilize for instance. And there is some evidence now that some celiacs are sensitive to the gluten found in other grains thought to be "safe" such as corn and rice. So take the advice of a previous entry to eat a simple diet for the time being, and definitely use real foods (butter, not substitutes, for example). I'd also suggest you keep a diary of what you eat and drink, and how you feel the next day (make a simple chart on your computer xcel to make it easier). You might find some correlations. Good luck and be glad you've found this out early in your life so you can deal with it before anything really bad happens.

dbruno1602 Newbie

I have had Celiac Disease for 10 months now. At first, I was so upset and I didn't know what I was going to do. I am very lucky that my husband said whatever I had to do he would do the same. My whole house is gluten free and we do go out to eat every now and then but it is only to restaurants that I trust. I look at what I can eat, not what I can't. I have always cooked and enjoyed it but I really enjoy it now and I am always looking for different things to cook. If you can, join Pinterest. There are alot of recipes that you will enjoy and won't have to pay for books. There are more and more gluten-free items becoming available and there are some really good items out there to purchase. I have apps on my phone that tell me where I can eat and what to purchase at the stores. If you would like them, I would be more than happy to give you them. I wish you all the best.

dreacakes Rookie

Oh honey, I totally understand your pain! I was vegan when I went gluten free. I was also really thin and could never get full!

I tried a gluten free vegan diet for a few months, but was still very sick.

The unfortunate reality is that meats are very nutrient dense foods that are easily absorbed by the body. Some of these nutrients are not available (in a bioavailable form) in plant foods, like B12 and long chain omega 3s. If you have gut damage and are already having trouble absorbing nutrients, vegetarianism and veganism will just make it worse. (I know I'm gonna offend some folks by saying that, but it's true!) I was also taking all my supplements back then and still deficient. You have to get your nutrients from the best source and eat lots of it right now. It will help your body heal.

My health didn't start to improve until I went on a paleo diet. I now eat bone broth, liver, all sorts of things I never thought I would, and it's saved my health! I also grained a little weight, have a lot more energy, and I'm not hungry all the time anymore.

If you're interested, book on nutrition that is wonderful is this one:

Open Original Shared Link

I hope you feel better soon! And don't worry, this diet can be a pain in the rear, but it's SO worth it! :)

I also have a pintrest page with really yummy recipes if you're interested (they won't let me post the link here, but you can PM me for it if you like.) :)

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    • trents
      Yes, there is a trend in the medical community to forego the endoscopy/biopsy and grant an official celiac diagnosis based on high tTG-IGA antibody scores alone. This trend started in the UK and is spreading to the USA medical community. And yes, 5-10x the normal level is what I have been seeing as the threshold as well. Here is the relevant section dealing from the article above dealing with the importance of the total IGA test being ordered. See the embedded attachment.
    • hmkr
      Ok, interesting. Not what I was thinking that meant. I'm reading the article and trying to understand. I see this “According to the latest research, if the blood test results are at certain high levels that range between 5-10 times the reference range for a positive celiac disease diagnosis, it may not be necessary to confirm the results using an endoscopy/biopsy” My IgG is 90, which is 6 times. So to me that means it's highly likely I do have it. 
    • trents
      It just means you aren't IGA deficient, i.e., that IGA deficiency cannot have given you artificially low scores in the individual IGA celiac antibody tests. This is explained in the article Scott linked above.
    • hmkr
      Normal range: 70 - 400 mg/dL, a little above middle of the range. So what does that mean? Thank you! I will check out that page you linked. Appreciate it! 
    • trents
      Well, the only thing I would conclude with would be, if you choose not to trial the gluten free diet, is to encourage you to get periodically tested, either antibody blood tests or the biopsy or both. I think it something that needs to be monitored.
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